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jkmiller1125 · January 25th, 2007, 01:54 PM

I have been playing on and off for about 20 years, but just now getting serious. I play with a Viper Cue with a 12mm glue on Le Pro tip. It has a hardness rating of 78.2. My question is what is a good all around tip for playing and being able to get good cue ball action?

BillyJack · January 26th, 2007, 09:42 PM

My son bought a Viper against my recommendations because the High Schoolers think it's "cool" I put on a medium Hercules layered tip for him, and his game elevated instantly. Tips are a very subjective decision, but if you search the forums, you'll see the same tips recommended over and over. Ya gotta start somewhere to find what works for you. The premium medium tips such as Moori, Talisman, Hercules, Sniper etc. are a good place to start. Then go from there depending on how it feels and works for you. Hell, some guys just love a Triangle and that's a low price med-hard pressed tip. If you're having it done somewhere ask the installer for an opinion. These guys aren't going to keep a tip in stock that nobody buys, so they have a feel for what's hot. Good Luck
Bill

havoc · January 29th, 2007, 09:58 PM

i have only tried 3 tips lepro,triangle, and sniper.the sniper is the best of the 3 imo,if only for the fact i miscue alot less with this tip.

havoc · January 29th, 2007, 10:00 PM

wow 3 guys from pa. posting in a row.

BillyJack · January 30th, 2007, 01:52 AM

And all from the left side of the state.

Hustl3r · January 30th, 2007, 02:25 AM

Although the right side of the state is better

Shorty · January 30th, 2007, 11:04 AM

I have shot with a Moori Medium for several years now and love it. I tried a Talisman Medium, which is harder btw, but I had 2 delaminate on me and won't be using those again. The Sniper is a very nice tip as well. With my new Sugartree, I am going to let Erik put whatever he wants that's medium/hard on it and just play with that. Softer tips give you more control, but you lose some feel I think. Harder tips hit more firm, but you tend to miscue more unless you chalk it alot.

JMO,
Shorty

A-Train · January 31st, 2007, 05:42 AM

I just changed from an elkmaster to a LePro, and there is a large difference. I really dislike the LePro, but I feel as though I haven't used it enough to really give it it's fair shot. I'm going to give it about a month and if I keep disliking it I will go back to what is familiar.

krbsailing · February 6th, 2007, 03:55 AM

The Basic Rule is ....that you should chalk up before every shot

My favorite tip has been a Talisman Medium for a couple of years.....a pressed Triangle is not to bad either -- Moori Medium is cool too!

The real difference IMO of a HARD tip is on long shots.....they will be more accurate!

I just put on an Everest tip on my playing cue which is supposed to be a liitle softer than a Talisman Medium.....shoots lights out.....at least at the moment

REALLY, it's just a personal preference like everything else!?!

BVal · February 7th, 2007, 06:39 PM

I just switched from Moori soft to the Tiger Sniper and I have been shooting much better lately. I don't think it is all in the tip but it is part of it for sure.

BVal

SPINDOKTOR · April 11th, 2007, 12:50 AM

I like Morri Soft, Sniper, and I used Elkmaster for years, Lepro isnt bad, if you like Elkmaster try Tiger Products Soft, its made of Split Calf skin and to me plays much like a Elkmaster but lasts a lot longer.. only problem is that the tip is solid white, so you might want to color the side's..

SPINDOKTOR

fultimebum · April 12th, 2007, 11:51 AM

I had a Morri Medium put on my best Cue years ago and loved it.Then I could only afford Cheepo's so I got Le Pro's put on it.Well I got someone to get a Morri Med put on the cue that I shoot with now and I love it.Of course I don't break with it.Now for the cue's that I shoot and break with I have Triangle Medium's on those and they work wonders for shooting and breaking.They don't mushroom like a Le Pro.I haven't tried any of the other tip's mentioned.

bigpocket · April 14th, 2007, 12:59 PM

sniper tips realy are not as great as people say stay with a good pressed triangle or a tailsman med pig or a moori and you be good to go. IMO

One Pocket Smitty · April 15th, 2007, 12:12 PM

I use a hard Killer works great. Was using a hard Moori whick was ok , but the Killer seems to do a better job. Just have to remember to chalk after every shot.---Smitty

Tony_M · June 16th, 2007, 08:31 AM

I have tried almost every tip made.

I would recommend a Hercules or Sniper.

January 25th, 2007, 01:54 PM	#1
jkmiller1125 User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Benton Ky Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	Tip Softness I have been playing on and off for about 20 years, but just now getting serious. I play with a Viper Cue with a 12mm glue on Le Pro tip. It has a hardness rating of 78.2. My question is what is a good all around tip for playing and being able to get good cue ball action?
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January 26th, 2007, 09:42 PM	#2
BillyJack User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	My son bought a Viper against my recommendations because the High Schoolers think it's "cool" I put on a medium Hercules layered tip for him, and his game elevated instantly. Tips are a very subjective decision, but if you search the forums, you'll see the same tips recommended over and over. Ya gotta start somewhere to find what works for you. The premium medium tips such as Moori, Talisman, Hercules, Sniper etc. are a good place to start. Then go from there depending on how it feels and works for you. Hell, some guys just love a Triangle and that's a low price med-hard pressed tip. If you're having it done somewhere ask the installer for an opinion. These guys aren't going to keep a tip in stock that nobody buys, so they have a feel for what's hot. Good Luck Bill
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January 29th, 2007, 09:58 PM	#3
havoc User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: altoona,pa. Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	sniper i have only tried 3 tips lepro,triangle, and sniper.the sniper is the best of the 3 imo,if only for the fact i miscue alot less with this tip.
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January 29th, 2007, 10:00 PM	#4
havoc User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: altoona,pa. Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	pa in the house wow 3 guys from pa. posting in a row.
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January 30th, 2007, 01:52 AM	#5
BillyJack User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	And all from the left side of the state.
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January 30th, 2007, 02:25 AM	#6
Hustl3r User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennslyvania Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 11	Although the right side of the state is better
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January 30th, 2007, 11:04 AM	#7
Shorty User Information: Status: Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	I have shot with a Moori Medium for several years now and love it. I tried a Talisman Medium, which is harder btw, but I had 2 delaminate on me and won't be using those again. The Sniper is a very nice tip as well. With my new Sugartree, I am going to let Erik put whatever he wants that's medium/hard on it and just play with that. Softer tips give you more control, but you lose some feel I think. Harder tips hit more firm, but you tend to miscue more unless you chalk it alot. JMO, Shorty
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January 31st, 2007, 05:42 AM	#8
A-Train User Information: Status: Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Las Vegas Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 20 Networking:	I just changed from an elkmaster to a LePro, and there is a large difference. I really dislike the LePro, but I feel as though I haven't used it enough to really give it it's fair shot. I'm going to give it about a month and if I keep disliking it I will go back to what is familiar.
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February 6th, 2007, 03:55 AM	#9
krbsailing User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	The Basic Rule is ....that you should chalk up before every shot My favorite tip has been a Talisman Medium for a couple of years.....a pressed Triangle is not to bad either -- Moori Medium is cool too! The real difference IMO of a HARD tip is on long shots.....they will be more accurate! I just put on an Everest tip on my playing cue which is supposed to be a liitle softer than a Talisman Medium.....shoots lights out.....at least at the moment REALLY, it's just a personal preference like everything else!?!
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February 7th, 2007, 06:39 PM	#10
BVal User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Arizona Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 11	I just switched from Moori soft to the Tiger Sniper and I have been shooting much better lately. I don't think it is all in the tip but it is part of it for sure. BVal
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April 11th, 2007, 12:50 AM	#11
SPINDOKTOR User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	I like Morri Soft, Sniper, and I used Elkmaster for years, Lepro isnt bad, if you like Elkmaster try Tiger Products Soft, its made of Split Calf skin and to me plays much like a Elkmaster but lasts a lot longer.. only problem is that the tip is solid white, so you might want to color the side's.. SPINDOKTOR
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April 12th, 2007, 11:51 AM	#12
fultimebum User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maryland Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10 Networking:	I had a Morri Medium put on my best Cue years ago and loved it.Then I could only afford Cheepo's so I got Le Pro's put on it.Well I got someone to get a Morri Med put on the cue that I shoot with now and I love it.Of course I don't break with it.Now for the cue's that I shoot and break with I have Triangle Medium's on those and they work wonders for shooting and breaking.They don't mushroom like a Le Pro.I haven't tried any of the other tip's mentioned.
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April 14th, 2007, 12:59 PM	#13
bigpocket User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: beloit WI Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	sniper tips realy are not as great as people say stay with a good pressed triangle or a tailsman med pig or a moori and you be good to go. IMO
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April 15th, 2007, 12:12 PM	#14
One Pocket Smitty User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hideaway, Tx. Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	Tips I use a hard Killer works great. Was using a hard Moori whick was ok , but the Killer seems to do a better job. Just have to remember to chalk after every shot.---Smitty
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June 16th, 2007, 08:31 AM	#15
Tony_M User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 11	I have tried almost every tip made. I would recommend a Hercules or Sniper.
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