How to smooth scratched ferulle - Billiards-Talk Forums

CaptainHook · January 5th, 2007, 05:34 PM

A friend of mine tuned up my tip with his Ultimate tip tool, and left some vertical scratches on my ferulle while sanding the side of the tip.
I have a majic eraser, some 600 and some Emory cloth at home.
How can I get the ferulle all nice and smooth again without wrecking it more?

Thank you,
CH

Slowhand · January 5th, 2007, 06:46 PM

Since I don't have a lathe, I took a 5/16-18 bolt and cut the head off. Then I mount that in a cordless drill and screw it into the shaft joint. I use that to spin the shaft while I hold a piece of 600 grit wet (black) sandpaper around the ferrule. I allow the sandpaper to build up with plastic and heat up just a little, this seems to work for me. Allowing the sandpaper to build up makes the grit finer as you go, so that it ends up polishing at the end. Don't allow the ferrule to heat up too much because it can expand and cause the tip to come loose. You may not know that the tip is loose until you try to break with it and it goes flying, so remember to sand lightly.

I hope this helps you.

acedotcom · January 6th, 2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Slowhand

Since I don't have a lathe, I took a 5/16-18 bolt and cut the head off. Then I mount that in a cordless drill and screw it into the shaft joint.

LMAO! Many the night I've sat in my living room, my drill on the floor propped between my feet, as I work on my shaft. Only difference is I found headless bolts at Home Depot. I use two nuts back to back as stoppers. I don't use this method on my better shafts though - I'm afraid of screwing up the taper.

CaptainHook · January 7th, 2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by acedotcom

LMAO! Many the night I've sat in my living room, my drill on the floor propped between my feet, as I work on my shaft. Only difference is I found headless bolts at Home Depot. I use two nuts back to back as stoppers. I don't use this method on my better shafts though - I'm afraid of screwing up the taper.

The owner of the Flamingo, where I play has a lathe in the back room, he polished it up with some 600, and shaped the tip for me.

Thanx.
CH

A-Train · January 6th, 2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHook

A friend of mine tuned up my tip with his Ultimate tip tool, and left some vertical scratches on my ferulle while sanding the side of the tip.
I have a majic eraser, some 600 and some Emory cloth at home.
How can I get the ferulle all nice and smooth again without wrecking it more?

Thank you,
CH

I know this is quite off of the subject, but do me a favor and post a fullsize pic of your av...or maybe just the girl in it. She looks hawt. LOL!

Just kidding...but not really.

CaptainHook · January 7th, 2007, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by A-Train

I know this is quite off of the subject, but do me a favor and post a fullsize pic of your av...or maybe just the girl in it. She looks hawt. LOL!

Just kidding...but not really.

Here is a link to the Luby site:http://www.lubys.us/round2.htm

Her name is Teresa, she is one of my wifes MySpace friends. We have never met her in person. My wife asked her to send us the link. Great pics, wish I was there.

Mods: if these pics are to much, please delete and just leave the link.

CaptainHook · January 7th, 2007, 12:03 AM

Here is the other one I use on A-Z.

From page six of the lubys link.

A-Train · January 7th, 2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHook

Here is the other one I use on A-Z.

From page six of the lubys link.

A-Train just fell in love.

Great shots man.

CaptainHook · January 8th, 2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by A-Train

A-Train just fell in love.

Great shots man.

Happy to help.

BillyJack · January 7th, 2007, 01:20 PM

I'm a nut about clean ferrules, so I've polished up a few nasty ones on used cues I bought without a lathe. Here's what works for me: Get some 1000. 1500 and 2000 grit wet-or-dry paper from an auto parts store. Cut some 3/4 in. wide strips. Cover the first couple inches of the shaft behind the ferrule with masking tape to keep the wood dry, and put an index mark on the tape. I clamp the shaft horizontally in soft jaws of my vise, but you can also clamp it over the edge of a table top. Spritz the 1000 grit strip with water and drape it ofer the ferrule in an inverted "U". Pull it up and down "shoeshine style" about 20 strokes. Keep the pressure light and move bac and forth along the ferrule, slightly on to the tip. Rotate shaft 1/4 turn, repeat with same amount of strokes, keeping the paper wet, until you've made a full turn. Wipe off slurry and inspect. Repeat the process if necessary untill scratches are barely visible, then move to the 1500. Finish with the 2000, polishing untill dry to burnish the tip in the process. You may want to remove the masking tape for the final polish to smooth over any step at the ferrule/shaft joint. Dress the tip, and you're done. Done with care, you should have a smooth polished ferrule and well burnished tip, still within about .015 in. of concentric. PM if you have any questions. Hope this helps.

Bill

BHQ · February 9th, 2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHook

A friend of mine tuned up my tip with his Ultimate tip tool, and left some vertical scratches on my ferulle while sanding the side of the tip.
I have a majic eraser, some 600 and some Emory cloth at home.
How can I get the ferulle all nice and smooth again without wrecking it more?

Thank you,
CH

here's a perfect example of what that ultimate tip tool will do to your ferrule if not done carefully
can you believe this guy doesn't want a new ferrule???

end result at the sacrifice of 1/4 of a MM which he said was ok by him

CaptainHook · February 9th, 2007, 06:36 PM

"WOW" you really got that baby smooth. I am a clean ferrule freak. I clean mine with a Majic Eraser when I get home from playing.

Hustl3r · February 9th, 2007, 06:47 PM

Wow, that guy went to town...some possible built up frustration? lol

Those marks look like the extended down past the ferrule....amazing!

January 5th, 2007, 05:34 PM	#1
CaptainHook User Information: Status: Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Flamingo, St.Pete FLA. Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	How to smooth scratched ferulle A friend of mine tuned up my tip with his Ultimate tip tool, and left some vertical scratches on my ferulle while sanding the side of the tip. I have a majic eraser, some 600 and some Emory cloth at home. How can I get the ferulle all nice and smooth again without wrecking it more? Thank you, CH
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January 5th, 2007, 06:46 PM	#2
Slowhand User Information: Status: Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Detroit area Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	Since I don't have a lathe, I took a 5/16-18 bolt and cut the head off. Then I mount that in a cordless drill and screw it into the shaft joint. I use that to spin the shaft while I hold a piece of 600 grit wet (black) sandpaper around the ferrule. I allow the sandpaper to build up with plastic and heat up just a little, this seems to work for me. Allowing the sandpaper to build up makes the grit finer as you go, so that it ends up polishing at the end. Don't allow the ferrule to heat up too much because it can expand and cause the tip to come loose. You may not know that the tip is loose until you try to break with it and it goes flying, so remember to sand lightly. I hope this helps you.
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January 7th, 2007, 01:20 PM	#10
BillyJack User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	I'm a nut about clean ferrules, so I've polished up a few nasty ones on used cues I bought without a lathe. Here's what works for me: Get some 1000. 1500 and 2000 grit wet-or-dry paper from an auto parts store. Cut some 3/4 in. wide strips. Cover the first couple inches of the shaft behind the ferrule with masking tape to keep the wood dry, and put an index mark on the tape. I clamp the shaft horizontally in soft jaws of my vise, but you can also clamp it over the edge of a table top. Spritz the 1000 grit strip with water and drape it ofer the ferrule in an inverted "U". Pull it up and down "shoeshine style" about 20 strokes. Keep the pressure light and move bac and forth along the ferrule, slightly on to the tip. Rotate shaft 1/4 turn, repeat with same amount of strokes, keeping the paper wet, until you've made a full turn. Wipe off slurry and inspect. Repeat the process if necessary untill scratches are barely visible, then move to the 1500. Finish with the 2000, polishing untill dry to burnish the tip in the process. You may want to remove the masking tape for the final polish to smooth over any step at the ferrule/shaft joint. Dress the tip, and you're done. Done with care, you should have a smooth polished ferrule and well burnished tip, still within about .015 in. of concentric. PM if you have any questions. Hope this helps. Bill
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February 9th, 2007, 06:36 PM	#12
CaptainHook User Information: Status: Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Flamingo, St.Pete FLA. Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 10	"WOW" you really got that baby smooth. I am a clean ferrule freak. I clean mine with a Majic Eraser when I get home from playing.
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February 9th, 2007, 06:47 PM	#13
Hustl3r User Information: Status: Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennslyvania Forum Activity: Reputation: Score: 11	Wow, that guy went to town...some possible built up frustration? lol Those marks look like the extended down past the ferrule....amazing!
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